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Canada Goose Parka Robert canada goose outlet ottawa Scheer: This is Robert Scheer with another edition of our podcast, Scheer Intelligence. I’m here with Ralph Nader, somebody I consider to be the kind of canada goose outlet store uk American original I’m trying to profile in this series; a product of the different immigration, crazy quilt cultural, ethnicity, religious backgrounds we have in this country. And Ralph Nader is truly an American original, a person who just transformed the nature of politics as far as reflecting the interests of the average person called a consumer. Saved more lives beginning with his automobile safety crusade, and on through his various other campaigns; training a whole generation of new lawyers who in the main canada goose outlet uk fake defended the public interest, and various spinoff organizations. And I’m here with him at an unusual moment. We’re at The Nation Cruise, where a basically liberal, left audience is considering the choices in this election between a Bernie Sanders and a Hillary canada goose outlet near me Clinton. And the reason I wanted to talk to Ralph is that I was on a similar cruise with him previously when Barack Obama was first running. And, I think, stupidly, in retrospect, disparaged his advocating an independent path, his concerns about an Obama candidacy coopting American politics. And I’m here not only to make amends but to ask Ralph canada goose outlet michigan Nader how he views this current election. So, what’s going on, Ralph? I know you probably favor Bernie Sanders, but he’s also agreed to support whoever the candidate is of the party; is this a dead end? Is this meaningful? What’s the answer? Canada Goose Parka
Ralph Nader: Well, that was a mistake he made, when he was asked, you know, about the middle of 2015, or maybe in the spring, ‘Will you support the Democratic nominee?’ And he said ‘I always do.’ Well, he should have said it depends who it is. Because the moment he said ‘I always do,’ the Clinton forces knew that he will fall in line, in April, say, if he loses the primaries to her, Hillary Clinton. And then it’ll be, you know, one happy, corporate, Democratic run to November. The tragedy is that he’s going to leave behind millions of very discouraged voters who voted for him. And he will have demonstrated that he did all this effort, raised a lot of good money in small contributions, and got nothing for it in terms of an agenda. Nothing. So what I’m suggesting is that the followers, if you’re going to vote for Bernie Sanders in the various state primaries, tell him right from the beginning that he has to condition any support for Hillary on his agenda. He’s got to get Hillary, very, very specifically, to adopt his major agenda in return for his endorsement. If he doesn’t do that, it’s the same old cycle that you’ve talked about, where the progressive candidate is folded in, like Dennis Kucinich and others; they’re all folded in. They leave all kinds of disheartened voters and followers behind, and the corporate Democrats march all the way to Wall Street.
canada goose store RS: Well, one of the ironic results of the Obama victory, where I was captivated by the young people turning out for Obama, I was captivated by his ability to raise a number of questions, including criticism of the banking industry and, by implication, criticism of the Democratic Party’s support, beginning with canada goose outlet winnipeg address Bill Clinton, of the deregulation of the banking industry, and so forth. Well, after Hillary dropped out in that race, Barack Obama then actually turned to the very same people, the Timothy Geithners and the Lawrence Summerses and so forth, that had constructed the Clinton deregulation, and put them in government. And one of the results of the canada goose outlet orlando Obama administration, the continuation of the wars, the failure to really hold any of the bankers responsible, is the very disillusionment that you were talking about, actually, is out there. I mean, I’ve seen it with the young people that I teach; they certainly don’t have the enthusiasm for this election that they had for the Obama election. And what I’m wondering about is this sort of interesting, canada goose outlet germany odd, unexpected figure of Bernie Sanders. On the one hand, there’s a great educational value to his campaign; you know, he’s actually raised the possibility that something called democratic socialism might matter; certainly on domestic issues he’s had a very principled position of challenging big corporate power that I’m sure you’re sympathetic to. But as you suggest, already he’s taken that step to betraying maybe that’s too harsh a word, I don’t know; but it canada goose coats uk would seem to me if he just stands up there on the stage holding Hillary Clinton’s and she hasn’t changed her position on certain key questions, one of which certainly would be how you treat Wall Street, where she’s carried a lot of baggage for Wall Street and taken a lot of money from them it could have an extremely negative effect. canada goose store
buy canada goose jacket RN: Yes. I think his ambition is limited. I canada goose outlet store toronto think he just wants to push the agenda toward progressive politics, and then support the Democratic nominee, and go back to the Senate where you know he has a buy canada goose uk committee, and he’s part of the Democratic Party, even though he’s technically an Independent Socialist. So he’s very much concerned with not jeopardizing his base in the Senate, and his seniority in the Senate. So I don’t think he has the ambition to try to overtake her. Because he has all kinds of arguments against her, as you know; she’s never met a war she didn’t like, she’s never met a weapons system she didn’t like, she is a war hawk even more than Obama. She overrode Secretary of Defense [Robert] Gates, who was opposed to toppling the dictator of Libya, and persuaded Obama to remove the dictator of Libya. And the incredible chaos still is going on, spilling over into Central Africa, killing, sectarian fights. And that’s her war. So I call her Hillary the Hawk, or in other moments, when I want to be bilingual, I call her Generalissima Hillary. And then buy canada goose jacket
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RN: There is, but you know the public’s memory is very short. They can’t often remember what somebody said at the presidential level; they can’t even remember who was the vice presidential candidate. But more to the point is, what he says, he’s going to raise expectation levels; and if he folds in with Hillary’s campaign without having Hillary endorse publicly, vociferously and specifically his canada goose outlet jackets agenda, he is going to tarnish whatever memory of his good speeches with a sense of that he sold out. Senate. is as American as apple pie. You know that, Bob. [Laughs] In some conservative states you have canada goose outlet store near me public owned, state owned liquor stores, like in New Hampshire. In conservative Nebraska, the utility is publicly owned, the electric utility. And of course he mentioned Social Security and Medicare. So that’s a very good thing he’s done. But as I say, it can be completely overwhelmed by disillusionment canada goose outlet black friday if he folds without conditioning the wishes of millions of his voters by telling Hillary: no endorsement without adopting this agenda. Which she should adopt, because it has majority support; it’s a vote getter for her.
RN: The agenda would be, ah, one, breaking up the banks, the big New York banks. The second would be expanding Social Security. The third is full Medicare for all, everybody and nobody out; free choice canada goose outlet buffalo of doctor and hospital, which we don’t have today, and it’s half as expensive per capita. That’s the experience in Canada; they cover everybody with half as much dollars per capita. It would be expanding public works; we used to call it public works, that means more modern public transit, expanding Amtrak, expanding city transit systems; upgrade sewage, water systems; repair schools. Huge jobs program, good pay, they can’t be exported to countries like China. And he’s serious about that. It includes corporate tax reform; I think he would do something about these tax havens. And I think it would also include a lot of criminal justice reform. He’s not really talking that much about that, but I think he would be a force for reforming the drug law and emptying out a lot of nonviolent prisoners from our jails, leaving enough space for enhanced prosecution of corporate crooks who would take their place.
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